From: "zeljko_blace"Date: Tue Dec 11, 2001 2:19 pm Subject: TAA - DAAAAA ! ADVERTISEMENT Greetings … and apologies for the long silence We went to Ljubljana much later than we expected, and it took a while to set up the new lists properly at Ljudmila. It has been some time since we first posted the announcement about the content and scope of the three lists, so a reminder might be useful, as well as a contextualization of the lists in terms of the idea of "a.network." Both the network and the mailing lists that will be part of it should not be understood as a renaming of the ASU2 list and of the group of people who assembled there, but as an idea that originated there. We have approached people who were not at ASU2 to sign up to the lists and to be part of the network. // . . . a.network _______________________ What's in the name "network"? Can we even say after the hyper- inflation of the term in the nineties? During the ASU2 meeting Kestutis Andrasiunas said he thought of "networks" as purely functional things, sometimes created only for the sake of appearances, whose primary motive was getting money. People go to meetings and conferences to "network"--they make small talk, drink, and rub elbows with the big shots. They make utilitarian connections for the sake of gaining some future profit, for working on the big project . . . Beneath the world of networking, there are a lot of practical, sometimes invisible, sometimes informal collaborations that happen. These are pleasurable both for the sake of just making connections and also because some interesting projects have come out of the brainstorming of groups. But they often don't reach the necessary height to be noticed by the gaze of funding institutions. So it might be useful to distinguish what we would like a future "network" to be. On the one hand, it would definitely be USEFUL TO BE VIEWED AS A "SERIOUS" NETWORK, bound by certain interests and working towards some Recognizable GOAL (like the exchange of knowledge, ideas and resources between partners, promoting media culture in areas that are currently without it, approaching big organizations/bodies such as W3). It might MAKE THINGS MORE CREDIBLE for the sake of getting money (otherwise unreachable EU funds, which would need Western European partners for instance). But beneath this official appearance, a.net would work quite naturally and out of its own momentum as informal connections between people, some on a smaller scale, others in larger proportions. This process has already started to develop since Labin in September. Kuda and Mama are setting up reciprocal visas for ongoing visits during the year. … Kuda was invited to do a presentation at Buryzone, Candida is in correspondence about an event with Cyberpipe... And these all happened without becoming visible on the list. These kinds of connections are what would sustain the association of people beyond the name of the network. During ASU2 we discussed a.network as starting as a network of south east european media centers, it would be better to think of it not as regional, but as TRANS-LOCAL, which would include the local (by being rooted in a local community/association) but NOT BE LIMITED TO SPECIFIC BOUNDARIES. Initially, the position of a.net is already focused on this region of eastern europe only in the sense that the original impetus, administration and immediate future meetings are concentrated in between Zagreb and Ljubljana. But after the administration of the list passes from Mama in Zagreb and Ljudmila in Ljubljana to InterSpace in Sofia and another partner (perhaps Kuda in Novi Sad), it can migrate wherever the next initiative to continue it comes from. Which means the place where the next round of people is willing to do often unrewarding work of sustaining it ;) In principle there are no geographical restrictions. Ideally, a fresh supply of blood, ideas and energy every so often will be necessary to keep it from stagnating. This is NOT A NETWORK TO REPLACE those that already actively operate, but rather a network that can articulate and coordinate activities and PROVIDE A FRAMEWORK that is wide enought to support both fundraising, advocating, and organizing activities in the field of new media culture (from tactical media to artistic practicies, from pragmatic software development to advocating our positions to policy makers, from publications on e.culture to theoretical essays and research)… This might look ambitious, but it is something that still remains to be done on an international level. We should admit that from an aerial perspective a.network does not yet exist . . . The informal exchanges that have taken place since Labin have not been formulated as a network activity, though on many levels they may be more important. And we don't want to "draft" participants of ASU2 into this network as a kind of reflex or natural follow-up, because many people might have no interest in it. So those who are INTERESTED should demonstrate their interest by at least SIGNING UP TO THE NEW LISTS. And, pragmatically, to make it a recognizable entity will mean - drafting proposals, - setting up a website, - formulating something resembling a mission statement, and - perhaps a baptism in the form of an annual meeting during which the members of the network could come together. a.lists: ____________________ For reasons that are not so easy to explain, the names of the individual lists changed (it was a joke about a soft, medium and hardboiled egg that I made to Zeljko and which he communicated to Luka at Ljudmila … anyway the names stuck. So: a.org became => a.hard: http://www2.ljudmila.org/mailman/listinfo/a.hard a.pub became => a.medium: http://www2.ljudmila.org/mailman/listinfo/a.medium a.soft remained => a.soft: http://www2.ljudmila.org/mailman/listinfo/a.medium Here is a reminder of the purpose and scope of each list in the form of an excerpt from a previous post to the ASU2 list. >> a.hard (formerly referred to as a.org) is a mailing list for autonomous organizations, for sharing and discussing models (and problems) of organization as well as for making concrete proposals for organizing upcoming events and collecting partners for ideas and funding. This list would not be used for announcements of upcoming events (there is a difference between announcing an event is happening next week, which is already complete on the level of organization, and soliciting collaboration for planning events in the next couple of months or so.) Announcements of events would be uploaded directly to the events page of the website, members could check the site for updates, without getting a flood of messages in their inboxes. >> a.medium (formerly referred to as a.pub) is a list for web publishers (including magazines that have both web and print versions), a shared database of ideas. Many country-specific magazines that have web versions tend to have the same people writing in different issue, so one of the goals of a.medium would be to establish a forum among web publishers where each would print a list of the articles for the next issue (not the articles themselves, but perhaps a one sentence description) and those who are interested in specific content could start sharing texts and ideas. On a broader level, the list would present the opportunity for publishers to talk about the models they are currently using, and what might be most appropriate for web distribution. >> a.soft is a list for software developers, recognizing the need for communication and coordination among developers, and the desire for know-ware exchange. Several funds have recently been established for software development, and collaboration among partners would be a pragmatic approach to applying for them. The list would facilitate discussions of issues such as standardization of media exchange and news logs, as well as of more theoretical issues, for instance, about the social implications of software. … As there are already software specific lists, this one will attempt to transcend the closed discussions of "other" lists. Contrary to the original post, we have decided that WE WILL NOT SUBSCRIBE people, they would SUBSCRIBE THEMSELVES. So you will DECIDE which of the 3 you want to sign up for - and you can subscribe directly on the web interface for the 3 lists: a.hard: http://www2.ljudmila.org/mailman/listinfo/a.hard a.medium: http://www2.ljudmila.org/mailman/listinfo/a.medium a.soft: http://www2.ljudmila.org/mailman/listinfo/a.medium Over the next couple of weeks we are inviting people/organizations who we know (of) and who we think would be interested in joining (and we will send a list of subscribers and brief descriptions to each of the lists, so everyone would know who is in the house) . Later, after the lists are already running, we will post a public announcement to other lists (like nettime, rhizome, syndicate, spektre …, as well as to country specific lists). Those who are interested would only be able to subscribe by filling out a web based application form that would require information about their organization, projects, and interests in joining the list, etc… which would hopefully deter people who are into joining whatever list just for the sake of joining and who become lurkers once they join. We will keep asu2@yahoogroups.com running only a few more weeks until web is set- up and people subscribe to new lists (mainly as a tool for feedback on new tools). There will be no posting of announcements (of events, festivals, publications, art projects) on these 3 lists (in FAQ we will advise using nettime, rhizome, spektre, syndicate for these). Members will be able to upload announcements themselves to the public, web log (set up on ljudmila.org). The site will have different sections, some for the archiving of knowledge (knowledge base), some for current activities (calendar of events), others more referential (adressbook, links, and funding references). We would like to have your FEEDBACK regarding the extra features/content on the website before deciding on its structure and choosing which software to use. Both Everything2 and TWiki have been discussed so far, and the later one seems to offer more advantages (since Ljudmila already has it installed and because it can be used to syndicate content with other Wikis setup in NY, Berlin, Amsterdam ... mostly through the work of Walter Van Der Crujisen). As a reminder of the closing ASU2 roundtable discussion, and the previous posts, we have decided for a number of reasons that the lists would not be moderated but only administered, which places the responsibility on the side of the members to use them wisely and exercise some restraint in posting opinions about the war against Afghanistan, or announcements of upcoming events, or self- advertisements about recent art projects (we used the term "art projects" deliberately here, since a.soft will obviously include discussions of members' work on software projects, which might have artistic quality :). Responses, suggestions, ideas welcome! Joanne and Zeljko
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